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Sun
21
Jun '09

Several Site & Company Updates

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Wayne Benner (Port Colborne, Ontario FD) sent us this photo compilation video of several of our class photos taken from our website.  Wayne took our “Back to Basics” Engine & Ladder Company Operations class in Oakville, Ontario last year and has been in contact ever since.  Thanks Wayne, nice work!

In addition, there are two other conventional forcible entry videos uploaded to Youtube as well.  Feel free to subscribe to the Brotherhood Instructors, LLC Youtube channel, and you will be notified when other videos are posted.  We hope to post an Engine Operations video in the very near future.

Class Announcements:
We have several class announcements that we would like to make everyone aware of.  All class announcements are always posted on our “Upcoming Classes” page.

Past Classes:
Our “Past Classes” page has a new look.  Now all photos are uploaded and can be viewed as a slideshow instead of the multi-click that we used to have.  We are working to upload all of our classes to the new format.

Facebook Page:
The Brotherhood Instructors, LLC. Facebook page has nearly 400 members.  If you are a Facebook member, we invite you to join us.  All of our class announcements are posted in the form of events, class photos and videos are posted.  Facebook also allows the members who took the class to post their photos as well.  In addition, we have some quick-drill training videos, and discussions.

Mon
30
Mar '09

03/30/2009 - First Due Video: Tactical Discussion (moderated by Andrew Brassard & Nate DeMarse)

Youtube user Chasefire has come up with some excellent footage once again.  Here, we see footage as the first or second due ladder company arrives at the scene of a fire in an apartment building.  The footage is located on Youtube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hstF-UH3qg.

The first 1 minute, 30 seconds of video is simply the rig responding to the fire.  Trust me that it gets better at the 1:30 mark and the video (and ensuing discussion) will be well worth the wait.

Here are a few questions for discussion.  Feel free to copy/paste these questions, and answer them as you see fit as they pertain to your department and/or your observations.  If you would like, let us know what the response would be in your department and how many firefighters would be fighting this fire if it occurred in your town.

Engine Operations:

1) Ideally, where would the engine stop at this fire?  Why?
2) What type of stretch would you perform (pre-connect, reverse, forward, etc…)?  Why?
3) What size & length of attack line would you stretch?  Why?
4) Any other comments regarding engine considerations that may arise from the video?

Ladder Company Operations:

1) In your department, who conducts the searches and when?
2) At this fire, where would your members start to search? why?
3) If searching above, and there is a loss of water on the fire floor what may be your second means of egress?
4) Would you or your department ascend to the floor above without the protection of a hose line? Why?
5) Forcible Entry Considerations:  What special considerations may arise at a Motel, Hotel or Inn?
6) How would you ventilate this structure?  Who is doing it?  Where and when?
7) Are there any other comments regarding ladder company considerations that arise from the video?

Remember to keep this discussion a tactical discussion.  Brotherhood Instructors, LLC. pride ourselves in running a professional Online Drills area.  We are strictly moderated, and comments that simply bash a department’s or firefighter’s tactics (or any responses) will not be allowed and will not be posted.  Nate & Andrew will post their answers to the questions above and other discussion points on approximately April 10th.  Any and all levels of firefighters are encouraged to post and ask questions.

All posts MUST be signed with at least your first and last name
(we also prefer your department)

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Sun
14
Sep '08

09/13 & 09/14/2008 - Oakville, Ontario - “Back-to-Basics Hands-On Training Weekend”

On September 13th and 14th, 2008, Brotherhood Instructors, LLC in conjunction with Andrew Brassard’s forcible entry training company conducted their first “Back to Basics - Hands On Training Weekend” at the Oakville, Ontario Fire Training Center.  This was Brotherhood Instructors, LLC. first international class.  Thirty-five members from departments in Canada and Upstate New York attended.

 Day #1 Rotations: Conventional Forcible Entry; VES; Conventional Search Tips & Techniques; Power Saw Forcible Entry; Forcing Entry from the Hinged-Side; Through-the-Lock Forcible Entry and Flat Roof Operations.

Day #2 Rotations: Nozzle & Back-up Firefighter Tips & Techniques & Utilizing a 2 1/2″ as an Attack Line;  Advancing the Initial Attack Line; Stretching from Static/Dead Loads; Well-hole & Rope Stretches; Estimating the Stretch & Engine Company Officer Responsibilities and Private Dwelling Fire Scenarios.

In our opinion, and judging by the class evaluations, this class was a huge success.  All of our instructors had an outstanding time and enjoyed teaching and learning from all of the members in attendance.

 

 

 

 

Brotherhood Instructors,
LLC. would like to thank everyone again for having us, extending your hospitality and your friendship to our guys during our 4-day stay!  Thanks again!

For more class photos, visit our “Past Classes” area: http://brotherhoodinstructors.com/photos/2008-09OakvilleCombinedOps/oakvillephotogallery.html

Contact us at info@brotherhoodinstructors.com if your department interested in scheduling or hosting a similar event.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wed
28
May '08

05/28 & 05/29/2008 - Ankeny, IA - Ladder Company Operations

This past week we taught a basic skills class for the Ankeny, IA Fire Department. Information is as follows:

Title: Ladder Company Operations

Length: 4 hour Weekly Drill (repeated on second day)

Type: Hands-On, Acquired Structure

Topics: 4 Rotations: Vent Enter & Search, Conventional Forcible Entry, Flat Roof Operations, Peaked Roof Operations

Agencies: Ankeny, IA Fire Department

We had a great time and I think everyone learned a lot, including us! Thanks to the Ankeny, IA Fire Department for their attention, their eagerness to learn, their aggressive drilling habits and their hospitality. Truly a class act department.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

          

Mon
14
Apr '08

04/14/2008 - Tactical Discussion by Kevin Legacy & Nate DeMarse

How about a professional tactical discussion on building fires. Copy and paste the questions, then answer them on your reply. As always, no unsigned posts or posts that bash another’s tactics will be posted. If you cannot discuss this without bashing tactics, there are plenty of other websites that will allow you to. If you are a young firefighter, feel free to post your concerns or questions on how the guys are coming to their conclusions so you can learn as much as possible.

Your Department:

  1. How many apparatus (what type/manpower) will arrive within five minutes of your arrival?
  2. How many apparatus (what type/manpower will arrive within 10 minutes of your arrival?
  3. How far away is your nearest mutual aid company and what is their manpower when they arrive?

Engine Company Operations:

  1. What are your major concerns if arriving first due at this fire?
  2. Where will you stretch your first attack line and why?
  3. Where will you stretch your second attack line and why?
  4. Will you need other lines, if so, how many and where?
  5. Will you forward lay or reverse lay and why?
  6. Will you call for additional help on arrival?
  7. Any other Engine points that you would like to share?

Ladder Company Operations:

  1. What are some major concerns if you are the first due ladder company at this fire?
  2. What ladder company functions are needed immediately and how will you conduct them?
  3. Is roof ventilation a primary concern at this fire?
  4. How will you conduct ladder company operations if your department does not have a ladder truck?
  5. How will you search this building?

Building Construction & Fire Conditions:

  1. Is this a private dwelling or converted multiple dwelling and what are the concerns with each?
  2. Where will the fire travel in the next 5 minutes and how will you stop it?
  3. What type of construction do you expect and the hazards associated with construction?

**No unsigned posts**

**Copy & paste the questions & answer as you see fit**

Fri
7
Mar '08

Private Dwelling Engine Operations

Here is a great example of a disciplined engine and ladder company. Again, the video is set to music. Turn the volume down and zone in on the training aspects of the video.

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You can skip to 01:30, everything prior to that is a response video. The video is a little dark in some spots but it gives insight in a near perfect aggressive interior attack in a very common private dwelling found in most of our communities.

01:30 - 02:30: The first due engine company arrives on the scene with heavy fire showing from two windows on the 1-4 (a-d) corner. They immediately go to work forcing the front door and stretching and flaking the first line. It appears that line is ready to go at approximately the 2:30 minute mark, less than a minute after the rig has stopped.

02:30: - It appears that the forcible entry firefighter is delayed in getting the door. He sticks with it using various 1-firefighter techniques by prying down with what appears to be the adz end and then followed it up with a baseball swing at the 03:00 mark. He uses various techniques of the Halligan to effect entry.

03:00 - Resisting Several Urges: This is probably one of the best videos on the online training circuit showing tremendous professionalism and discipline in both engine and ladder company operations. This video shows us that there are still departments out there that know and operate with the basic firefighting fundamentals in mind.

The engine company resisted all urges to hit the fire from the exterior, even when the forcible entry operation was not going as smoothly as we like. Hitting this fire from the exterior would have driven the fire into uninvolved areas of the building, and would have killed any occupants that certainly could be alive in any other part of the house aside from the fire room. This would have also driven fire to a member performing VES opposite the fire searching for those victims, if VES is in the departments SOPs.

The engine company also did a great job in avoiding becoming “side-tracked” by the small rubbish fires (fence, bushes, rubbish on the side) and kept to the mission of getting a line through the front door and to the seat of the fire quickly. Operating on those small fires, which are typically inconsequential to the outcome of the fire, often lead to a tendency to “hit the window” to “give the fire a whack”. By staying near the front door and covering the member forcing entry, the line was able to quickly move in after the door was forced.

In addition, the ladder company (or ladder company operating firefighters) resisted a tremendous urge to ventilate the two front windows directly adjacent to the front door. I started to become a little concerned at 03:15 when a member with a hook, set up to the right of the window as if he was preparing to ventilate. Just as I started to cringe, he decided not to ventilate the window. Whether he decided on his own, or a boss or senior firefighter told him not to, it was the correct decision to delay ventilating those windows. Ventilating those window(s) would have certainly pulled the fire from the room of origin and to the new ventilation opening and probably allowed it to spread throughout the rest of first floor since access had not yet been gained.

03:53: - After a tough forcible entry operation, entry is gained. A second member assists the forcible entry firefighter by providing a couple of much needed “taps” to the properly positioned Halligan and the door is forced almost immediately. In a very coordinated and swift motion, the front windows are ventilated and the line aggressively advances to the seat of the fire. All members appear to assist in the advance of the hose line. It appears that water was applied to the main body of fire about 30 seconds after the line entered the front door and the main body of fire knocked down about 15 seconds after that. A great job by the engine company in any way that you approach it.

Other comments:
There were several YouTube comments that express displeasure with the operation, mainly centering around the speed of the forcible entry operation. I emailed the videographer and he explained that the owner of this house was in prison and had “fortified” this door prior to him vacating the house for his absence. The door had a high deadbolt and a standard deadbolt, both with extra-long bolts as well as the regular locks. The firefighter forcing the door did an excellent job getting the door. Perhaps, asking for assistance (a few hits to set the forks, which was done eventually) a little earlier could have slightly sped up the operation, but I think it went well. This was not your typical easy private dwelling forcible entry job that much of the country sees on a day to day basis.

Additionally, there were comments regarding making entry through the window with the hose line and to search while other members worked on the door. As I wrote above, ventilating the windows next to the door would have drawn the fire to that location and negated entry to the building. Anyone who would have entered, would probably be leaving just as fast. There are very limited circumstances where the first hose line should be stretched through a window instead of through a door opening. The only instance that I can think of stretching a hose line through a window is in the case of a vacant building where the stairs are burned out, unstable or otherwise compromised. Short of that, the hose line should enter the fire building through a doorway and not a window.

I invite everyone to add to the discussion, comment further or post questions regarding the video or my thoughts. The only two things that we ask on our forum is that all posts be signed (first and last name) and all posts remain professional with an intent to learn or teach. Posts that do not meet that criteria will not be published!

Tue
5
Feb '08

Private Dwelling Operations - Nate DeMarse


As it appears in this video, my first line would probably head to the rear door in an attempt to make a less punishing advance down the interior basement stairs. That is a great move and with minimal manpower to stretch and advance the first line, it is probably the best option.
My second line however would be stretched to the front door and charged. That line would be responsible for protecting anyone operating on the first floor or any members proceeding to the 2nd floor to search the bedrooms (main priority). If there is no line in the front and the fire started to light up as it did, any members operating on the second floor would be trapped above until the line could be repositioned and knock the fire down.My third line if available would back up the first line in the rear. Back-up lines are important, but I would opt to cover the members searching above before backing up the first line.A few comments:1) Does it appear that a dry line is chocking the outward swinging front door in the middle of the video? I don’t know if they were operating and lost water or if they were in the house with a dry line. If they never had water or had a known water issue, venting the front picture window was not a good idea. As you saw, the influx of air caused the fire to intensify and drove them from the building. Coordinate venting with the application of water.2) I don’t believe that the first floor “fire phenomenon” was a flashover. It was definitely a rapid fire progress and on it’s way to a flashover, but they caught it before it actually flashed over. Keep in mind that the orange you see lapping out of the front door is also more rapidly making it’s way up the interior stairs and towards the bedrooms. Any members searching above will need portable ladders or the fire to be knocked down to escape. That is my justification for a hose line through the front door.3) Did you hear the radio traffic reporting “holes in the floors”. That was a heads up move to alert all members operating on the first floor of that hazard. If there are small holes in the floor an interior door can be removed from a bathroom or closet and placed over the holes so no one will get hurt.

4) Many departments declare that a building is “fully involved” when a window or two of fire is showing. When I hear the term fully involved, in my mind there is fire pushing from every opening in the building and no one is going to be alive in the structure. There are most certainly areas in this building that a victim could still be rescued after our arrival. In my opinion, every area with the exception of the direct fire area (room) in the basement could have housed a viable victim.

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Nate DeMarse
Brotherhood Instructors, LLC